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 What the deal with junk mail envelopes have a Customer Locator Code and a Warning?
Bama-Shooter  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 1:35:23 PM
Warning:Tampering with this envelope or it's contents may result in legal action.

What's up with that?
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tc556guy  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 1:36:47 PM
Some Federal reg about tampering with the mail before it gets to ints intended recipient. Can't recall the section.
afplayboy18  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 1:37:13 PM
ive got some of those also.

sounds like crap to me though.

ETA: i thought it was always against the law to tamper with other peoples mail. i think they are just putting it on the envelopes just cause.
logem  [Member]
6/21/2005 2:05:09 PM
I believe that those statements are B.S. They don't want you to mark through the customer locator code, fill the envelope full of trash, and then mail it back to them.

I always mark through the customer locator number and the barcode, and put the envelope in the mailbox, so I can charge the junk mailers back for a little bit of my time that they have wasted.

It's fun to see how creative you can be about what you send back to them: hole punch pieces, etc.

M.L.
IAMLEGEND  [Member]
6/21/2005 2:06:45 PM

Originally Posted By logem:
I believe that those statements are B.S. They don't want you to mark through the customer locator code, fill the envelope full of trash, and then mail it back to them.

I always mark through the customer locator number and the barcode, and put the envelope in the mailbox, so I can charge the junk mailers back for a little bit of my time that they have wasted.

It's fun to see how creative you can be about what you send back to them: hole punch pieces, etc.

M.L.



I showed SHEISLEGEND this trick and she loves it. I mean, she is on a mission now. I do it now and then but she makes a point. She puts all kinds of junk in the return envelopes.
Mauser101  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 2:12:46 PM

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By logem:
I believe that those statements are B.S. They don't want you to mark through the customer locator code, fill the envelope full of trash, and then mail it back to them.

I always mark through the customer locator number and the barcode, and put the envelope in the mailbox, so I can charge the junk mailers back for a little bit of my time that they have wasted.

It's fun to see how creative you can be about what you send back to them: hole punch pieces, etc.

M.L.



I showed SHEISLEGEND this trick and she loves it. I mean, she is on a mission now. I do it now and then but she makes a point. She puts all kinds of junk in the return envelopes.



I have heard instances of people taping the return envelope to a brick and the post office actually accepting it.
ar-wrench  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 2:15:02 PM
Just print out the following:


"Please use your locator code to Identify this adressee. This serves notice to you that any further mailings from you to me constitutes a contractural agreement for you to pay me $25 per page or $50 per mailing (whichever is greater) for me to review and discard your mailings.

This contract is governed by the laws in the state of _________ and is considered binding on the receipt of any further correspondence from XYZ Spammer (insert company name)."


Send them 30 or 40 copies so they have plenty.

mayday  [Member]
6/21/2005 2:19:52 PM
Cool! I want to send thier stuff back! Where is the customer locator code? WHat does it look like? What can I do so I dont get identified? I get about 6 junk letters back EVERY DAY!
markm  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 2:25:17 PM
I've been cutting it out of the return envelope and stuffing it.

One of the companies got smart and had the CUSTOMER LOCATOR CODE on the opposite side of the return address that went into a window envelope. So in order to send their shit back you had to return your info unless you blacked it out.

I pile this shit up and go thru it once a week. It's really an ass ache!
HeavilyArmed1  [Member]
6/21/2005 2:28:45 PM
What I do is take a fine tip black marker and put extra lines and combine lines already in the ICP bar code...Oh and I then send them coupons for something stupid. If I get two different credit card companys I'll send the wrong return CC card info to the other Company..Blank of course. With no postage do the company pays the postage.
bblake00  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 2:29:55 PM
Every now and then I'll send them some used cat litter.


But hey, they paid for it.
afplayboy18  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 2:32:51 PM

Originally Posted By bblake00:
Every now and then I'll send them some used cat litter.


But hey, they paid for it.



sysop  [Member]
6/21/2005 2:35:50 PM

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Warning:Tampering with this envelope or it's contents may result in legal action.

What's up with that?



I rip all that crap off stuff whats left in the postage paid envelope and mail it back after I use a Sharpie to black out the bar code.
Bama-Shooter  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 2:39:33 PM
So is it illegal to mail these evelopes back to them?
markm  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 4:21:54 PM

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
So is it illegal to mail these evelopes back to them?



No. misuse "may" result in legal action. They could sue you if they could prove maliciousness. It's not a criminal matter. It's civil.

Unless you're going with the kitty litter plan. In that case they may involve the FBI for fear of some sort of contamination.
FanoftheBlackRifle  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 4:25:16 PM

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
So is it illegal to mail these evelopes back to them?



No. misuse "may" result in legal action. They could sue you if they could prove maliciousness. It's not a criminal matter. It's civil.

Unless you're going with the kitty litter plan. In that case they may involve the FBI for fear of some sort of contamination.



But I was just returning all their misplaced documents to them in the return envalope they so kindly provided.
IAMLEGEND  [Member]
6/21/2005 4:30:03 PM

Originally Posted By Mauser101:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By logem:
I believe that those statements are B.S. They don't want you to mark through the customer locator code, fill the envelope full of trash, and then mail it back to them.

I always mark through the customer locator number and the barcode, and put the envelope in the mailbox, so I can charge the junk mailers back for a little bit of my time that they have wasted.

It's fun to see how creative you can be about what you send back to them: hole punch pieces, etc.

M.L.



I showed SHEISLEGEND this trick and she loves it. I mean, she is on a mission now. I do it now and then but she makes a point. She puts all kinds of junk in the return envelopes.



I have heard instances of people taping the return envelope to a brick and the post office actually accepting it.



I mentioned this to her. I heard the same thing (here I think). She wants to do it but I'm not feeling 100% about it yet. Maybe we should try it.
IAMLEGEND  [Member]
6/21/2005 4:32:01 PM

Originally Posted By ar-wrench:
Just print out the following:


"Please use your locator code to Identify this adressee. This serves notice to you that any further mailings from you to me constitutes a contractural agreement for you to pay me $25 per page or $50 per mailing (whichever is greater) for me to review and discard your mailings.

This contract is governed by the laws in the state of _________ and is considered binding on the receipt of any further correspondence from XYZ Spammer (insert company name)."


Send them 30 or 40 copies so they have plenty.




I sent a similar message to a local paper that was leaving their unwanted crap on our driveway. A nice notice to burglars when there's no one home.
I asked nicely and it kept coming. The notice of my storage and disposal fees got them to stop.
SatelliteMan  [Team Member]
6/21/2005 6:48:25 PM

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Warning:Tampering with this envelope or it's contents may result in legal action.

What's up with that?



They (bulk mailers) try to make the letter look "important" so you will open it.

I deliver all kinds of that crap: "Tracking number registered". Registered doucments enclosed",
"Special Priority Confirmation".

And my favorite: "Postmaster: If undeliverable please handle according to DMM article #3455".

That means it gets thrown in the trash.
PaDanby  [Member]
6/21/2005 7:45:19 PM
Thats all bullshit that says to handle it like any other junk mail, but impresses the hell out of the ignorant.

If you are going to mail a brick, don't do it from home, your local carrier won't appreciate it, especially after you get all the neighbors to do it too.
22bad  [Member]
6/22/2005 2:06:11 AM

Originally Posted By HeavilyArmed1:
What I do is take a fine tip black marker and put extra lines and combine lines already in the ICP bar code...Oh and I then send them coupons for something stupid. If I get two different credit card companys I'll send the wrong return CC card info to the other Company..Blank of course. With no postage do the company pays the postage.



I didn't think it was possible to get off those lists, since the .gov is who sold them my name
I think I will try asking them to stop on a part of their mailing, returned to them pre-paid, thanks
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