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 pittbull vs. bobcat?
BillTheButcher  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:18:59 PM
which one do you think would win if a bobcat tried to attack a mean pittbull
arowneragain  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:19:43 PM
toss-up.

Windustsearch  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:20:17 PM
Bobcat 100%.
mag162  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:22:47 PM
pitbulls eat pussies
SJSAMPLE  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:24:13 PM
There are plenty of blinded dogs roaming America's streets.
And those are from little pussies.

Bobcat for teh win!!!
ragincagin  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:25:48 PM
Im convinced pit bulls feel no pain. They have very thick hides, one of mine bent 2 needles in a row at the vet!! And when threatened they have no clue how to "turn off". They are also retardedly athletic, look at this jump......heat up the link if you can.

Made link hot. --tbk1
dedfella  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:26:09 PM
feline pwns canine


unless it is 2 or more pits working in tandem

one on one the bobcat fucks up the pit and goes away disdainfully
st0newall  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:26:51 PM
put an ape on the poll.. personally i always vote for apes in animal battles.
SENT  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:27:09 PM
Going with the Bobcat, assuming it is a full grown adult male.
JRBL1A1  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:27:28 PM
I'd have to go with the bobcat. The bobcat would have the dog gutted in about 2 seconds with the hind claws if the dog got on top of it somehow.
motown_steve  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:27:34 PM
Hard to say. A pitbull is twice the size of a bobcat and can be every bit as vicious. However, the bobcat has these:

Win_88  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:28:18 PM
The pit bull might find little kids an easy prey, but a bobcat would crush the pit.

dedfella  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:28:30 PM

Originally Posted By st0newall:
put an ape on the poll.. personally i always vote for apes in animal battles.


I remember fondly some dude claiming since he could whip the monkey's ass then the ape would be no sweat for a pit.
operatorerror  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:28:33 PM

Originally Posted By mag162:
pitbulls eat pussies babies



fixed
Rampant_Colt  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:29:05 PM
Domestic =vs= feral

if the bobcat's big enough [25-30 pounds] i think it would be pretty messy for both parties involved.

If the pit managed to clamp down somewhere, game over.

Go look at the size of the claws of the cat in the "man strangles bobcat" thread; that's a relatively small, skinny cat and could tear some shit up!

I call a draw
Gargoyle  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:29:10 PM
Holy shit people. Farm dogs fuck up cats all the time. These are labs and mixed mut species too. Pit-bull has more muscle and when it clamps down the cat is done.

The dog is going to win, but he will sure as hell know he'd been in a fight.
gengomerpyle  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:29:15 PM
how about man vs bobcat
dedfella  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:31:45 PM

Originally Posted By Gargoyle:
Holy shit people. Farm dogs fuck up cats all the time. These are labs and mixed mut species too. Pit-bull has more muscle and when it clamps down the cat is done.

The dog is going to win, but he will sure as hell know he'd been in a fight.


in dog and cat fights around the old homestead, the cat usually comes out the winner

we have a great dane that has had it's ass whipped by a barn cat so many times it ain't funny
Red_Label  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:33:15 PM
Pound for pound, feline is more athletic and quick than canine. Claws on feline animals are very effective weapons in addition to teeth. Pitbull offensive weapons are limited to the teeth and pressure exherted by bite pressure. Put up a pitbull against a mountain lion of similar weight for better comparison. And of course, there'd be NO comparison. The pitbull wouldn't even know what hit it and ripped its throat out.

In terms of which animal can take more of a beating, I think the Pitbull wins hands-down. They're just dumbass biting machines who feel no pain. Kind of remind me of a crocodile or some other lower life form with only a brain stem. Flame away...
Red_Label  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:35:09 PM

Originally Posted By Gargoyle:
Holy shit people. Farm dogs fuck up cats all the time. These are labs and mixed mut species too. Pit-bull has more muscle and when it clamps down the cat is done.

The dog is going to win, but he will sure as hell know he'd been in a fight.



That's because the ones that do dwarf the housecat in size. Put-up a cat the same size as your lab-mix and the dog becomes vulture meat. NO comparison...
ragincagin  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:35:14 PM
My dog kills birds......they can fly.......I have no idea how he does it.
CharlieHo  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:36:05 PM
I know a cat will royally fuck up two rottwielers at the same time. Neighbors' dogs found out the hard way, one DOA.

Yeah I know, not a pitbull....
Windustsearch  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:36:13 PM
I don't know where this 30 Lb shit comes from. I have an old cat that weighs 20 lbs. Most of the bobcats I have seen were not only much larger than that, but much larger than any pit bull and easilly capable of killing one.

A pit bull would be cut to ribbons fataly in seconds.
JAMES77257  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:36:56 PM

Originally Posted By SENT:
Going with the Bobcat, assuming it is a full grown adult male.


Yep.
dedfella  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:37:40 PM

Originally Posted By ragincagin:
My dog kills birds......they can fly.......I have no idea how he does it.


870 wingmaster?
Hemi-Cuda  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:38:49 PM
German Shepherd.

I've seen it in person.
Red_Label  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:39:17 PM

Originally Posted By CharlieHo:
I know a cat will royally fuck up two rottwielers at the same time. Neighbors' dogs found out the hard way, one DOA.

Yeah I know, not a pitbull....


Wish that had been the case for my 18lb tom cat. He got his throat ripped-out by the neighbor's rott. I wasn't there or the dog would have been rott-ing. But I wanted to introduce that dumb mutt to a cat more his own size. It was white trash owners and I'm sure the dog ended-up dead one way or the other eventually.
arowneragain  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:42:01 PM

Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
I don't know where this 30 Lb shit comes from. I have an old cat that weighs 20 lbs. Most of the bobcats I have seen were not only much larger than that, but much larger than any pit bull and easilly capable of killing one.



In the south, a mature bobcat will weigh between 18 and 25 pounds.

I've seen a few larger than that, and I'm sure larger ones are normal in other parts of the country, but around here, a 20-pound bobcat is a normal adult size.

ragincagin  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:43:27 PM

Originally Posted By Red_Label:
Pound for pound, feline is more athletic and quick than canine. Claws on feline animals are very effective weapons in addition to teeth. Pitbull offensive weapons are limited to the teeth and pressure exherted by bite pressure. Put up a pitbull against a mountain lion of similar weight for better comparison. And of course, there'd be NO comparison. The pitbull wouldn't even know what hit it and ripped its throat out.

In terms of which animal can take more of a beating, I think the Pitbull wins hands-down. They're just dumbass biting machines who feel no pain. Kind of remind me of a crocodile or some other lower life form with only a brain stem. Flame away...


I know you are fishing, but Ill indulge. They are not dumb ass biting machines, many of them....that a certain part of society doesnt get their hands on.....are therapy/service dogs, Hellen Kellers dog was a pit bull. Trust me, its not these dogs fault, once again, it is that unsavory segment of society that destroys these dogs to be used for their athleticism and tolerance for pain. There are tens of thousands of pit bulls in Europe, do you hear many horror stories from over there? Of course not, what does Europe not have that we are in no short supply of?
arowneragain  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:45:06 PM

Originally Posted By ragincagin:
what does Europe not have that we are in no short supply of?



chronium76  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 2:45:35 PM
Average male APBT is about 60lbs a Bobcat is maybe 30lbs.


It would be a nasty fight with one dead and the other serously wounded.


APBT would win head on but if the cat stalked the dog different story.
Windustsearch  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:48:11 PM

Originally Posted By arowneragain:

Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
I don't know where this 30 Lb shit comes from. I have an old cat that weighs 20 lbs. Most of the bobcats I have seen were not only much larger than that, but much larger than any pit bull and easilly capable of killing one.



In the south, a mature bobcat will weigh between 18 and 25 pounds.

I've seen a few larger than that, and I'm sure larger ones are normal in other parts of the country, but around here, a 20-pound bobcat is a normal adult size.



I see. Most of the bobcats I have seen were much, much larger than that and stood taller than any pit bull I have ever met. Goofy looking things (front legs longer than back, no neck etc.).
pulpsmack  [Member]
6/20/2007 2:58:35 PM
Bobcat, huh?

Some people just don't think before posting...

A 62 year old man just fucked a rabid bobcat up with his bare hands and the gang still votes for the bobcat against a pitbull?! The man would probably be murdered if he was barehanded against the pit. Also, the damage sustained by the man was not that critical. While a pit may have to get in closer, it has a much thicker hide. If the pit was riled up it would kill that fucking cat. Blinded or not.
arowneragain  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 3:04:42 PM

Originally Posted By pulpsmack:
Bobcat, huh?

Some people just don't think before posting...

A 62 year old man just fucked a rabid bobcat up with his bare hands and the gang still votes for the bobcat against a pitbull?!



Remember, 'rabid' and 'healthy adult in the prime of life' are two different things.

I've been within feet - even inches - of dozens of bobcats. Some in the wild, and many in cages (not tame, but caged).

Oddly enough, caged bobcats (Mississippi State University, Captive Animal Research Facility) seem to have individual personalities - somewhere, I have pictures of me holding a large bobcat like it was a kitten. The cat in the next cage over went psycho if you got within 20 feet of its cage. Hissing, spitting, baring its claws and teeth...crazy stuff, man.

Trust me, a HEALTHY bobcat would rock your world.

Between the dog and the bobcat, it's just a matter of whether the dog gets a good hold on the cat's neck. The cat might live, the cat might die, but the dog's walking away looking like hamburger either way.

SJSAMPLE  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 3:06:24 PM

Originally Posted By pulpsmack:
Bobcat, huh?

Some people just don't think before posting...

A 62 year old man just fucked a rabid bobcat up with his bare hands and the gang still votes for the bobcat against a pitbull?! The man would probably be murdered if he was barehanded against the pit. Also, the damage sustained by the man was not that critical. While a pit may have to get in closer, it has a much thicker hide. If the pit was riled up it would kill that fucking cat. Blinded or not.


Do dogs have hands with opposable thumbs?
Thought not.

A dog leads with its face.

Why don't you try that against a 2 pound tabby and let me know how that turns out?
M4MikelA3  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 3:07:19 PM
Agility will win out.

The cat.
Red_Label  [Member]
6/20/2007 3:10:12 PM
I personally don't know who'd win the fight if the terms were as stated by some. A 60# pit versus a 20# bobcat doesn't prove much if the dog wins (whereas is does if the cat wins). Let the 60# dog go up against a 60# cat and we have a comparison. And of course, to ANY and ALL logical minds the cat owns the dog in that scenario...
LWilde  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 3:11:08 PM
First of all, it won't be the cat attacking the dog. He'll run first.

I used to share a house with a couple who owned a real bobcat. His name was "Boats" after a first class bosun's mate my buddy knew.

The cat was a true badass. He was not declawed.

Dogs spooked him; as I learned to my painful detriment once when we were visiting friends and I happened to be carrying him as a three month old cub. When their friend's daschund began yapping, Boats damn near killed me trying to escape!

When he was an adult, they used to put him out in the back yard on a long wire run attached to the two clothsline poles. One day there was this big commotion and painful howling and hissing and terrble noises from the yard. When my shipmate got there, Boats was fine...but there was a bloody trail leading out of the yard. Appently someone had left the gate open and a dog got in and figured he had an easy mark. .

Having seen first hand how effective a fighting animal a bobcat is, I'll take the cat. He will run first and escape if he can. Cornered, he'll give the pit all he can handle.
jnojr  [Member]
6/20/2007 3:19:38 PM
There is no such thing as a "pitt bull".
jnojr  [Member]
6/20/2007 3:20:32 PM

Originally Posted By ragincagin:
Im convinced pit bulls feel no pain.


Untrue.

They just don't let pain distract them from the job at hand.
Breugel  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 3:21:11 PM
I had two bad ass black cats that would actively hunt dogs. One would not run and fix the dog in place and the other would stalk and jump on the dogs neck and go for the eyes and nose with both paws. If the dog went after the first cat then they would both jump on him. The dogs in the neighborhood now will not walk in our yard or the street in front of our house. Never underestimate a cat that will not run.
jnojr  [Member]
6/20/2007 3:25:43 PM
Years ago, my family had a cat that was half bobcat. She was an outside cat. The night she didn't come home, she was about 15-16 years old, and was probably brought down by a pack of coyotes.

She was getting soft in her old age. My mom came home one day and found her curled up next to the neighbors Great Dane.
dave666thomas  [Member]
6/20/2007 3:32:21 PM

Pitbull

VS.


Bobcat Goldthwait

I would say Pitbull would win in a rap battle or street fight, but in a comedy battle Bobcat would win.

Silence  [Member]
6/20/2007 3:42:28 PM
If the dog wants the cat, and the cat cant run, dog beats cat.

No ifs ands or buts about it.

I had a part collie part shepherd when I was growing up that would kill any cat that came into the yard (mainly my aunt's, who lived about a quarter mile away. Funny thing is he wouldnt bother them at all until they came into 'his' yard) . He even got a bobcat once.

The fights wouldnt last 3 secs once they came into contact. The cats would swell up, hiss and spit, with the the dog looking at it for a few secs, then BAM the dog would close the distance grab the cat by the back, or the neck, shake a few times, and viola dead or dying cat. I dont think our dog ever got a serious scratch once he got grown.

My dog would sit for hours under a tree if the cat had managed to climb it. Even if you called him away from the tree, he would sneak back to it if you werent looking.

Bad thing was he would leave them scattered around the perimeter of the yard, and If I wasnt careful when running the mower I would run over the decaying carcasses. Not a pleasent thing to do.
SJSAMPLE  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 3:51:45 PM

Originally Posted By Silence:
If the dog wants the cat, and the cat cant run, dog beats cat.

No ifs ands or buts about it.

I had a part collie part shepherd when I was growing up that would kill any cat that came into the yard (mainly my aunt's, who lived about a quarter mile away. Funny thing is he wouldnt bother them at all until they came into 'his' yard) . He even got a bobcat once.

The fights wouldnt last 3 secs once they came into contact. The cats would swell up, hiss and spit, with the the dog looking at it for a few secs, then BAM the dog would close the distance grab the cat by the back, or the neck, shake a few times, and viola dead or dying cat. I dont think our dog ever got a serious scratch once he got grown.

My dog would sit for hours under a tree if the cat had managed to climb it. Even if you called him away from the tree, he would sneak back to it if you werent looking.

Bad thing was he would leave them scattered around the perimeter of the yard, and If I wasnt careful when running the mower I would run over the decaying carcasses. Not a pleasent thing to do.


Declawed cats sure are easy prey.

Meanwhile, any pussy with her front razors is gonna fuck that dog up good.
Seen it happen to more than a few dogs, including mine.
pulpsmack  [Member]
6/20/2007 3:58:45 PM

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Do dogs have hands with opposable thumbs?
Thought not.

A dog leads with its face.


Why don't you try that against a 2 pound tabby and let me know how that turns out?


Really smart counter there. Do people have protruding muzzles that put the fangs before the eyes? Do they have hair and a thicker hide that protects the entire head? Do they have a predatory drive to coordinate and attack face forward like a canine?

An old man with his grip strength was capable of putting down a bobcat. A Pit has a bite that delivers hundreds of pounds per square inch worth of pressure and neck muscles like an athlete's thigh. if the dog is serious, the cat dies. period.
Silence  [Member]
6/20/2007 4:01:09 PM

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By Silence:
If the dog wants the cat, and the cat cant run, dog beats cat.

No ifs ands or buts about it.

I had a part collie part shepherd when I was growing up that would kill any cat that came into the yard (mainly my aunt's, who lived about a quarter mile away. Funny thing is he wouldnt bother them at all until they came into 'his' yard) . He even got a bobcat once.

The fights wouldnt last 3 secs once they came into contact. The cats would swell up, hiss and spit, with the the dog looking at it for a few secs, then BAM the dog would close the distance grab the cat by the back, or the neck, shake a few times, and viola dead or dying cat. I dont think our dog ever got a serious scratch once he got grown.

My dog would sit for hours under a tree if the cat had managed to climb it. Even if you called him away from the tree, he would sneak back to it if you werent looking.

Bad thing was he would leave them scattered around the perimeter of the yard, and If I wasnt careful when running the mower I would run over the decaying carcasses. Not a pleasent thing to do.


Declawed cats sure are easy prey.

Meanwhile, any pussy with her front razors is gonna fuck that dog up good.
Seen it happen to more than a few dogs, including mine.


I grew up in the country.

Nobody out there declaws cats.

That is only for wussy cityfolk.

Not a many people had 'indoor' cats either.

If the dog wants the cat, and the cat cant flee to safety, the dog gets the cat.

Dogs (full sized non-toys) that get 'fucked up' by cats didnt really want the cat to begin with.

But believe what you will.
Red_Label  [Member]
6/20/2007 4:01:39 PM

Originally Posted By pulpsmack:

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Do dogs have hands with opposable thumbs?
Thought not.

A dog leads with its face.


Why don't you try that against a 2 pound tabby and let me know how that turns out?


Really smart counter there. Do people have protruding muzzles that put the fangs before the eyes? Do they have hair and a thicker hide that protects the entire head? Do they have a predatory drive to coordinate and attack face forward like a canine?

An old man with his grip strength was capable of putting down a bobcat. A Pit has a bite that delivers hundreds of pounds per square inch worth of pressure and neck muscles like an athlete's thigh. if the dog is serious, the cat dies. period.



And another really smart counter in your post. The bobcat that guy killed with his hands wasn't much bigger than a housecat. Quit comparing apples to oranges here people. Let's see the badass pit, rot, whatever than can go up against a mountain lion of similar weight. I have yet to hear of anyone hunting lions with ONE dog and no gun...
crurifragium  [Member]
6/20/2007 4:02:25 PM

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By Silence:
If the dog wants the cat, and the cat cant run, dog beats cat.

No ifs ands or buts about it.

I had a part collie part shepherd when I was growing up that would kill any cat that came into the yard (mainly my aunt's, who lived about a quarter mile away. Funny thing is he wouldnt bother them at all until they came into 'his' yard) . He even got a bobcat once.

The fights wouldnt last 3 secs once they came into contact. The cats would swell up, hiss and spit, with the the dog looking at it for a few secs, then BAM the dog would close the distance grab the cat by the back, or the neck, shake a few times, and viola dead or dying cat. I dont think our dog ever got a serious scratch once he got grown.

My dog would sit for hours under a tree if the cat had managed to climb it. Even if you called him away from the tree, he would sneak back to it if you werent looking.

Bad thing was he would leave them scattered around the perimeter of the yard, and If I wasnt careful when running the mower I would run over the decaying carcasses. Not a pleasent thing to do.


Declawed cats sure are easy prey.

Meanwhile, any pussy with her front razors is gonna fuck that dog up good.
Seen it happen to more than a few dogs, including mine.


Dog also gets to feel the pain if the cat gets in a position to kick with it's back leg claws.
James23  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 4:05:27 PM
Good question.

Without even the slightest bit of information to back it up, I voted bobcat.

Now all we have to do is see if Michael Vick will set up a fight for us. Who's bringing
the bobcat?

pulpsmack  [Member]
6/20/2007 4:07:00 PM

Originally Posted By Red_Label:


And another really smart counter in your post. The bobcat that guy killed with his hands wasn't much bigger than a housecat. Quit comparing apples to oranges here people. Let's see the badass pit, rot, whatever than can go up against a mountain lion of similar weight. I have yet to hear of anyone hunting lions with ONE dog and no gun...


It must have been a smart counter because you seemed to withdraw completely from it and try to change the subject along with the post and play "small cougar vs. dog". Why not get more and square Tha Dogg Pound agains the Thundercats?