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XDBACKUPGUN  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 4:56:17 PM EST
This happened several weeks ago.

My wife was walking my 5 year old Black Labrador Retriever today, taking a slightly different route through the neighborhood than she typical follows.

As she passes by a house a Boxer appears out of no where is coming up behind her.

Boxer growls and pounces on Anna.

Wife kicks dog several times in the ass and stomps on its rear paws.

Boxer has Anna by the scuff of the neck, wife tries to pull Anna back so she can spray the dog with her can of Fox 5.3.

After 10 to 12 kicks in the ass and stomping on the dogs rear paws several times the boxer releases its grip, only to have Anna grab the boxer by the throat, wife says Anna's protective instinct kick in and she saw a side of Anna that kind of scared her.

After 30 to 40 seconds Anna releases her grip and my wife pulls her away and empties a 20z can of Fox 5.3 into the boxers face, the whole time the dog is growling and bark, my wife stood her ground and yelled at the dog to go away.

Boxer runs to the snow bank and proceeds to rub it's face in the snow while emitting a high pitch whine.


Meanwhile Lady who is owner of dog is in street trying to call her dog, wife Says and I quote "Hey dumb bitch there is a leash law in this city!"

Dumb Bitch asks what the fuck did you do to my dog?

Wife: I defended myself and I am calling the cops to report this.

Dumb Bitch: I am going to sue you for the vet bills and press charges against you for beating my dog.

Wife: Good luck with all that Bitch!

Wife dials 911, cop shows up in under 4 minutes.

Dumb Bitch gets ticket for unleashed dog and is cited for Disorderly Conduct for verbally abusing the Police Officer, and a verbal lashing for be a stupid bitch.

Cop tells my wife not to worry about being liable for any damages and she did the right thing.

Cop gives my wife a ride home and asks her if he can give her a ride to the vet to get Anna checked out.


Wife ran her hands over Anna while waiting for the cops to arrive and she had a 3 small puncture wounds on the back of her neck.

Wife declines Officers offer and says she can drive there.


Wife and Anna go to the vet and get checked out, the wounds are cleaned and determined to be very shallow, she should heal just fine.

We will be taking Dumb Bitch to small claims court to recover the vet costs.


I think my wife needs a Carry Permit.

Update

As I was posting this I was waiting to hear from the Officer that responded to the call to find out where the dog is.


I just go off the phone with a Lady at the Police Department, she told me that the Officer is off duty but she does know that the dog was taken to the vet and Animal Control will take possession of the dog when it is discharged from the vet.

She told me the Officer will call me when he reports for his shift Tuesday.


UPDATE

Apparently the Boxer died at the vet.

My wife and I are being sued for damages.

Wife may get charged with Animal Cruelty.





Just to Clarify.

It was a 2 ounce can of Fox 5.3


No charges have been filed.

Wife was served with Papers today about the Lawsuit.

We will be counter suing.

The responding Officer notified us that the dog died.

The responding Officer is going to be a great asset to us.


I have Lawyered Up.


Apparently the dog suffered internal injuries, caused by my wife kicking/stomping it.

Small Update 4/5/08

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Any updates?



Not really.


Our lawyer is doing his thing, working to get the lawsuit thrown out.

We counter sued.


Thinking of getting a Restraining Order against the Dumb Bitch and her Assclown Husband.

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The_Reaper  [Life Member]
3/17/2008 4:59:11 PM EST
Personally, your wife did just fine without a permit.

Consider how many more problems there would have been had she used a gun.

robertl  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:00:50 PM EST
Your wife is a very level headed lady. Kudos to her, glad her and your dog are safe!
Deej86  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:01:33 PM EST
Your wife did fine!
Kudos to her!
packinheavy  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:01:36 PM EST
Tell your wife good job for me.

mthunter  [Member]
3/17/2008 5:01:36 PM EST
Glad your wife and Anna are ok.

Kudos for your wife for holding her ground and stoping that dogs ass and feet!


Mt Hunter
ffsparky26  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:02:25 PM EST
Pepper Spray to the face and grab the dog by the hind legs to yank them off.
rexydg7  [Member]
3/17/2008 5:02:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Personally, your wife did just fine without a permit.

Consider how many more problems there would have been had she used a gun.



agreed.. if she had used it on the dog, now a human attacker... different story altogether.
Arcteryx  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:03:09 PM EST
Sounds like your wife did a good job. A CCW is never a bad thing as long as she thinks she's ready for it.

Hope your Lab has a speedy recovery.
BIKECOP29  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:03:21 PM EST
Your wife and dog did good. Maybe the dumb bitch will learn to keep her dog leashed from now on. She would of been justified employing deadly force too. Was the boxer taken by animal control? I know alot of jurisdictions will quarantine a vicious animal that attacks another person and/or their pet.
Castillo  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:03:59 PM EST
She did fine with the OC, Don't know if a gun would have made the situation better... good job to the wife though.
buckmaw  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:05:46 PM EST
She can practice with this:

ChinoUSMC  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:05:59 PM EST
Where's the pics? I'm a visual person


Tell your wife she did a great job. If it was me, that dog would have been dog jerky.
BIKECOP29  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:06:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By buckmaw:
She can practice with this:

i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg316/buckmaw_1/140zs76.jpg



UH_SALT_RIFLE  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:06:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Deej86:
Your wife did fine!
Kudos to her!


+1
HommieDaKlown  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:07:11 PM EST
While i think its great that your wife defended herself and her family.

I think she really needed a concealed carry permit.
Glad the wife and the dog will both be ok :)


oh and yelling "dumb bitch" in the middle of the street is never a classy move. just my opinion.
XDBACKUPGUN  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:07:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By BIKECOP29:
Your wife and dog did good. Maybe the dumb bitch will learn to keep her dog leashed from now on. She would of been justified employing deadly force too. Was the boxer taken by animal control? I know alot of jurisdictions will quarantine a vicious animal that attacks another person and/or their pet.



I will update the first post,

I was waiting to hear from the Officer that responded to the call to find out where the dog is.


I just go off the phone with a Lady at the Police Department, she told me that the Officer is off duty but she does know that the dog was taken to the vet and Animal Control will take possession of the dog when it is discharged from the vet.

She told me the Officer will call me when he reports for his shift Tuesday.
Barney_Calhoun  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:07:54 PM EST
UFC style foot stomping on the dog. I like it!
thumper10mm  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:08:45 PM EST
Something was wrong with that dog, i have had Boxers my whole life, they are one of the friendliest breeds i have seen, but very protective.
Your wife did a great job, i hope your dog is alright.


thump
dropbass  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:15:52 PM EST
Slightly different route?



Your wife was halfway through our backyard. Our boxer shouldnt have to be on a leash. Keep your dog out of our yard.



















Rosenrot  [Member]
3/17/2008 5:18:50 PM EST
I would have shot the bastard
Junkwaffle556  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:21:12 PM EST
The wife done good!
TOL1488  [Life Member]
3/17/2008 5:23:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By buckmaw:
She can practice with this:





Oh no you didn't!


















palmer  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:23:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By XDBACKUPGUN:
Boxer runs to the snow bank and proceeds to rub it's face in the snow while emitting a high pitch whine.


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Wife did good, so did Anna.
wise_jake  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:25:35 PM EST


Had to have been an APBT.

Can you have your wife go back and check to make sure?
Pita_146  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:27:15 PM EST
Good for her.

Just for future reference...she didn't need to use the whole can. There will be no appreciable difference between a good 1 or 2 second blast and dumping the whole can...other than the amount of cross contamination.

blindshooter  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:28:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By rexydg7:

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Personally, your wife did just fine without a permit.

Consider how many more problems there would have been had she used a gun.



agreed.. if she had used it on the dog, now a human attacker... different story altogether.


I agree also. I'm all for anyone getting a CCW but she did fine WITHOUT pulling a firearm out. Good for her.

I own page two bitches!
TheGrayMan  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:30:58 PM EST
I'll bet that sensitive canine nose had a big ole' time with that OC.
Repete  [Member]
3/17/2008 5:31:49 PM EST
Damn fine job by your wife. She has courage!
MMcCall  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:38:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Pita_146:
Good for her.

Just for future reference...she didn't need to use the whole can. There will be no appreciable difference between a good 1 or 2 second blast and dumping the whole can...other than the amount of cross contamination.



I would have saved some for the boxer's owner.
Bigsampson  [Member]
3/17/2008 5:40:59 PM EST
Your wife did great.

I agree on the permit part. OC only works consistantly on sane people and animals. Somebody, or something, that is either really pissed or really high and OC is just gonna piss them off even more. Freeze +P is a little better and some of the high concentrate stuff that LE can get is better, but even then an intent nutjob and animal can still act in a blind rage. Ask any LE or prison guard about that.

The OC is a good first deterrent. If it doesn't work, then pull out the heavy stuff. At least it would show that you tried to use a less than lethal responce and was forced to using deadly force as a last resort.
Hank
pathfinder74  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:42:34 PM EST
Cool story. Good for your wife. A dog that you have that much of a close bond with you're going to instinctively protect it as fiercely as if it was your own child.





Something similar happened to a rescue dog I had... although he was just as nuts as the other dog.

My uncle had this neighbor that had two vicious chow-chow dogs that she used only for breeding. They were pretty neglected. The one was chained to a tree pretty much all the time. It was very unkempt looking and barked all the time. My uncle hated this thing because it would bark in the middle of the night and wake him up.

We were visiting and my dumb-shit rescue dog (Boxer from a shit-head family in Camden NJ that used him for nothing more than to stud him and he was pretty neglected) hears this dog on the other side of the fence. The fences is nothing but rotted wood and he starts freaking out, barking and trying to get at the other dog. The other dog is freaking out as well.

My boxer breaks through the fence just enough to stick his snout through and the chow got a hold of his jowl and would NOT let go for anything. I had to kick the dog in the head a few times to get it off my dog.

I can't say who was necessarily at fault. She was told several times to repair the rotted fence. And my uncle made complaints all the time about the dogs. But my dog was a freakin nutball... we ended up having to give him back to the rescue because he had crazy separation anxiety and was protective to the point of trying to attack anyone on the other side of any kind of barrier. We were afriad he would bite the neighbor's kids or hurt one of our kids because he would go nuts in the car at a gas station or going through a gate with a guard.


sorry for the hijack
ZedsDeadBaby  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 5:42:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Castillo:
She did fine with the OC, Don't know if a gun would have made the situation better... good job to the wife though.


Yeah, but this thread would be so EPIC if this was a draw-down! story.

In preparation for that eventual story, she needs a carry permit.
raygixxer89  [Member]
3/17/2008 5:48:13 PM EST
Good deal. I'm glad everything turned out OK. I think the mace was a perfect solution. A gun would have been a real headache in this situation. Don't get me wrong,by all means get your wife the permit. But I think a can of mace would make a perfect back-up for those less-than-lethal confrontations(in cunjunction with a pistol).
Your wife seems like a level-headed lady. Outstanding! Pats on the back for her and your dog!!
coyote3  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 6:21:28 PM EST
Good on your wife and Anna! My wife saw our Black Lab, Nikki, go into protection-mode once.

They were out walking one morning, when she sees a guy looking in cars, with a flashlight. He gives some BS explanation about looking for a guy that was in his neighborhood, casing his car. Meanwhile, Nikki is sitting at my wife's side, quietly at the ready. This was weird, because Nikki usually will try licking the hell out of anyone, but she must have picked up on my wife's uneasiness.

During their conversation, he made the mistake of taking one step too close into their comfort zone and Nikki launched at the guy, with teeth bared and the kind of low-growl-from-Hell, that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand on end. Thinking better of the situation, the guy bids a nervous "Bye", hopped in his car and left.

Even though my wife carries, Nikki handled this clown on her own. She earned a nice little steak for dinner that night.

Spray is good, but having other options is even better.
crashburnrepeat  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 6:47:40 PM EST
good work.

gun would most likely be overkill
innocent_bystander  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 6:52:21 PM EST
Glad your wife and lab are OK.

Can you go into more detail about the effectiveness of the FOX 5.3.

Did your wife get immediate results? Did the dog break contact as soon as it was sprayed.
kallnojoy  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 6:54:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By UH_SALT_RIFLE:

Originally Posted By Deej86:
Your wife did fine!
Kudos to her!


+1


+1

Buy her some nice new boots and have her hone her punting skills a bit.

VT4meGunCtrlisAntiUS  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 6:56:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By mthunter:
Glad your wife and Anna are ok.

Kudos for your wife for holding her ground and stoping that dogs ass and feet!


+1
Elduke  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 6:56:53 PM EST
Your wife did good and I hope Anna recovers soon.
PhatForrest  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 7:00:10 PM EST
Glad your pooch and lady are ok. Job well done.
gaspain  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 7:06:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By buckmaw:
She can practice with this:

i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg316/buckmaw_1/140zs76.jpg


what no 10 ring?
4v50  [Member]
3/17/2008 7:07:58 PM EST
Anna did good but kudos to your wife. She did real good!
KS_Physicist  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 7:17:13 PM EST
Sounds like the boxer's owner could have used a blast of Fox, too.
DDog  [Member]
3/17/2008 7:23:20 PM EST
Hats off to the wife and anna. A scenario such as this may have long term effects on anna's behavior in the future. She may start to exhibit protectiveness on a whole new level. Something to look out for.
JustOneMore  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 7:35:19 PM EST
It sounds like you're wife did quite well, but I would tend to agree that a gun would have been the best solution in that it more quickly resolves the conflict, and that is NOT overkill. The professional dog trainer that is heading up the puppy class that my wife's chiuahua is in had to shoot two rotweilers last week that jumped into his back yard last week and attacked him and his dogs.

Dogs should not be unleashed and free to roam. I carry when I walk my dogs at and have encountered a few wandering dogs at night, but fortunately, have not had to defend them except once from some tiny toy dogs and that didn't require lethal force. I'd hate to shoot anybody's dog, but I'm prepared to if myself, or my family's life and safety require it. My father in law's dog was mauled to death by some roaming neighbor's dogs that broke into his kennel and killed him and it cause my wife such anguish. Leash laws at least give us the benifit of the doubt when it comes to self defence. Anyone who doesn't leash is taking a risk with their dog's life.
AgentDavis  [Member]
3/17/2008 8:02:37 PM EST
You married one hell of a woman! Good job on her part.
bcochran  [Member]
3/17/2008 8:22:32 PM EST
You are now warned. Don't get on her bad side.
Jarhead_22  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 8:32:59 PM EST
Your wife did great. Your dog did great. That police officer sounds like a class act.

Win. Win. Win.


If I can offer one piece of advice as someone who had his dog attacked by an unrestrained chow dog once... When another dog attacks your dog, do not try to get between them. That's a recipe for disaster. Simply grab the hind legs of the animal that's attacking your dog, lift them like the handles of a wheelbarrow, and begin kicking the attacking dog as hard and as fast as you can in the guts and ribs.

Alternately, if you're CCW'ing, that opens a whole list of other options.

All in all, it sounds like your wife, your dog and your local police are to be commended.
Mac_Fan  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 11:05:02 PM EST
Happy to read that your wife was not injured during that mess. Hope your dog heals quickly.
themagikbullet  [Team Member]
3/17/2008 11:22:29 PM EST
glad the wifey and puppah are ok! she did good
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