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The_Macallan  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:13:50 PM
Any white Michigan folks in Macomb County (I grew up there) think they have equal-protection under the laws?

Think again.


Hunting Season for Whites

Between the night of May 31 and the wee hours of the morning of June 1, 2008, between 20 and 30 black teenagers formed a mob to terrorize the citizens of Mount Clemens, Michigan. These hoodlums robbed people of cell phones and wallets, threw a brick through the window of a moving car, and beat up their victims so badly that at least one of their targets was hospitalized with a fractured skull. In an article in the Macomb Daily entitled “Mob, Carnival Attacks May Be Linked” (6/5/2008), the mother of one of the victims told police that “her son was on the ground trying to fend off the attackers who were ‘about ready to kick his head in’ when deputies arrived.”

The horror of what transpired was articulated in another article in the Macomb Daily entitled “Mob of Young Men Attacks” (6/2/2008). According to that article, “[W]orkers at the gas station [where one of the beatings by the mob occurred] said the man was confronted near a pay telephone. When the gas station attendant saw what was happening, he locked the front door.” As the man pounded on the door to beg the gas station attendant to let him in so that he could get away from the thugs, the mob arrived. The article in the Macomb Daily goes on to say that “An employee [of the gas station] said workers had to wash the man’s blood from the door Sunday.”

The victim who suffered worst was not the one who was attacked at the gas station. According to a press release posted on the website of the Macomb County Sheriff’s Office:
[W]hen a 29-year old man, and his wife, were driving on North River Road . . . more than two dozen men wearing ball caps and baggy shorts spread out across the street and blocked traffic. The victim tried to drive past them and someone threw a brick in his window. He stopped his car and got out to see what happened and was beaten unconscious and left with a fractured skull.

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Though the police have arrested a very small fraction of the thugs who terrorized Mount Clemens, many remain on the loose. According to an article in the Detroit Free Press entitled “Mob Beat Up Driver, Police Say,” one of the victims who suffered a black eye requested not to be identified by name in the article, because “most of the mob is still at-large [and he’s] afraid they’ll attack again.”

In every single article about the mob incident in which 20 to 30 black teenagers terrorized Mount Clemens, the journalists of the Macomb Daily, Detroit Free Press, and Detroit News neglected to mention the race of the perpetrators of this horrific crime spree. In every single video and picture of the perpetrators that the Macomb County Sheriff’s Office released on their website, the thugs are unsurprisingly all black.

In the aforementioned interview with Sheriff Mark Hackel, Frank Beckmann asked:
Sheriff, all the kids in the video I saw are African-American. All of your victims are white. Is there evidence that this was somehow [attacks based on race]?

Hackel responded with “It’s a question that we are asking. ... If it’s a hate crime and it happens to be a white person and the other people involved are African-Americans, we look at those things.”

When Beckmann inquired as to whether or not there is a “law to charge them with some kind of hate crime,” Hackel answered, “Well, that’s questionable. I don’t know if it applies to an unprotected class, and I don’t know if whites are part of that. I’m not sure.”

Beckmann was shocked to hear Hackel suggest that whites are not entitled to equal protection under the law. A taken aback Beckmann asked:
You mentioned ‘unprotected class.’ You mean white people are not protected by hate crime legislation?

Hackel answered that question by saying, “It doesn’t appear as such at this point and time that there is something that would qualify.”

Even though a horde of black thugs beat to the point of unconsciousness one innocent white man who was reported to have a fractured skull, threw a brick at a car that was driven by an innocent white woman, and beat up an innocent white man at a gas station to the point where employees had to clean up the bloody mess the following day, it is unlikely that the thugs will be charged with committing hate crimes, because the criminals were black and the victims were white.

Because of this simple fact, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton did not seemingly arrive in Mount Clemens the very next day after the altercation to protest “racism,” and there is no “Million Man March” scheduled to protest the black-on-white crimes that occurred. If a mob of whites were to do to innocent black victims what the black mob did to innocent white victims, the American people would not hear the end of it. What happened in Jena, Louisiana, would seem insignificant, and not because Jena was insignificant, but through comparison, people would view Jena as being child’s play compared to the modern-day lynch mob that terrorized the small town in southeastern Michigan.

It is important to note that though Hackel suggested that state and federal law does not protect white folk like it does for “protected classes,” he still has vowed to hunt down and bring to justice the thugs who targeted innocent whites who did not provoke the crimes meted out to them. In interviews with the media, Hackel has described the attacks as “savage,” and has said that “Not even animals act like this.”
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badfish274  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:18:10 PM


I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.
NineLivez  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:21:04 PM
Seems fair enough
Merrell  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:22:41 PM
Video of attacks released by police
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:22:51 PM

modern-day lynch mob that terrorized the small town in southeastern Michigan.



In interviews with the media, Hackel has described the attacks as “savage,” and has said that “Not even animals act like this.”




This is obviously just a bunch of racists spouting hatred and white superiority nonsense.
captainpooby  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:24:05 PM

Originally Posted By badfish274:
www.macomb-mi.gov/Photos%20of%20Officials/MarkAHackel.jpg

I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.



Holy shit! I wouldn't wear that uniform to a Hallowe'en party. No wonder he's a clown.


If you are sick of this shit, raise your hand.
DangerJ  [Member]
6/14/2008 8:24:51 PM
Well...someone finally said it.
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:25:39 PM

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

If you are sick of this shit, raise your hand.


You ain't seen nothing yet.
PFC-Demon  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:26:31 PM
Seems like a good time to have an automatic weapon.

( From watching the video )

That Sheriff is an asshole but he's just a reflection of the total failure of every government agency and system in the United States.

The victims in the video only have themselves to blame for not being armed sufficiently to fight off their attackers. They're lucky to even be alive.

If I was attacked by a group of people I would constantly beat myself up inside my head for not having a gun to defend myself. 911 is the number you call AFTER you neutralize the threat(s) and you secure your safety.
fxntime  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:26:55 PM
Hackel=PC Tool.

To bad the attacked did not have CCW's. Disparate force would have been a very compelling defense.

Hackel looks like a "brown shirt".
Kylaer_  [Member]
6/14/2008 8:27:03 PM

Originally Posted By badfish274:
www.macomb-mi.gov/Photos%20of%20Officials/MarkAHackel.jpg

I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.


Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."
djsmiles  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:27:28 PM
*cough*hatecrime*cough*
Eroc  [Member]
6/14/2008 8:27:41 PM
wow, that story really got my blood pumping
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:29:21 PM

Originally Posted By PFC-Demon:
Seems like a good time to have an automatic weapon.


Hmm, to not only be charged with the felony for possession,
but to also victimize all the fine upstanding gentlemen in cold blood?

That'd be the fastest execution in history, and you wouldn't even get a single protest.
The_Macallan  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:30:29 PM

Originally Posted By badfish274:
www.macomb-mi.gov/Photos%20of%20Officials/MarkAHackel.jpg

I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.

Oh good god!!!! WTF is THAT!!???

Flyskate  [Life Member]
6/14/2008 8:30:29 PM
That guy is a fucking asshole.... All people are protected by law, not just one race............ a hate crime is a hate crime, period........ Someone needs to beat some sense into that guy.
kill-9  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:30:47 PM
One sign of our culture returning to a sane philosophy will be when such things as "hate crimes" are abolished.
F350PSD  [Member]
6/14/2008 8:31:06 PM
Yep, thats why I'm in AZ. The story would read a lot different out here.
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:31:22 PM

Originally Posted By Kylaer_:
Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."


PFC-Demon  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:32:09 PM

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By PFC-Demon:
Seems like a good time to have an automatic weapon.


Hmm, to not only be charged with the felony for possession,
but to also victimize all the fine upstanding gentlemen in cold blood?

That'd be the fastest execution in history, and you wouldn't even get a single protest.


I didn't realize automatic weapons were prohibited in Michigan. They're legal here.
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:34:12 PM

Originally Posted By PFC-Demon:

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By PFC-Demon:
Seems like a good time to have an automatic weapon.


Hmm, to not only be charged with the felony for possession,
but to also victimize all the fine upstanding gentlemen in cold blood?

That'd be the fastest execution in history, and you wouldn't even get a single protest.


I didn't realize automatic weapons were prohibited in Michigan. They're legal here.


Good point, I don't know...
but man, even if I was all legal with it, that'd be about the LAST thing I'd ever want to have to use... and answer for in court Holy shit
The_Macallan  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:34:15 PM

Originally Posted By F350PSD:
Yep, thats why I'm in AZ. The story would read a lot different out here.

Arpaio >>> Hackel

VooDoo3dfx  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:34:40 PM

Originally Posted By Kylaer_:

Originally Posted By badfish274:
www.macomb-mi.gov/Photos%20of%20Officials/MarkAHackel.jpg

I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.


Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."


Now that I think about it.... you're right.
PFC-Demon  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:36:11 PM

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Good point, I don't know...
but man, even if I was all legal with it, that'd be about the LAST thing I'd ever want to have to use... and answer for in court Holy shit


Aw, man, c'mon. Nothing says "Please leave me alone" like automatic gunfire.
Kylaer_  [Member]
6/14/2008 8:36:47 PM

Originally Posted By Flyskate:
That guy is a fucking asshole.... All people are protected by law, not just one race............ a hate crime is a hate crime, period........ Someone needs to beat some sense into that guy.


Untrue. Hate-crime laws are, dare I say it, "whites only," and then only when the white person is the aggressor. They do not apply to any other population. The prosecution of said laws has made this plain, time and again. The sheriff is only stating the truth - I suspect he wants to make people angry, so they'll see how ridiculous hate-crime legislation is (and how selective its enforcement is).
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:37:15 PM

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By F350PSD:
Yep, thats why I'm in AZ. The story would read a lot different out here.

Arpaio >>> Hackel



Maybe Hackel really wants to keep his job?
C-lxngtn  [Member]
6/14/2008 8:38:29 PM

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By Kylaer_:
Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."




+2, there shouldn't be a protected class of any type.
CWDraco  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:40:03 PM

Originally Posted By Kylaer_:

Originally Posted By badfish274:
www.macomb-mi.gov/Photos%20of%20Officials/MarkAHackel.jpg

I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.


Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."


+1

he is right.
The_Macallan  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:40:25 PM


Originally Posted By Kylaer_:
Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."

Where exactly in that article did you see the Sheriff make plain his "disgust" with such an idea???

VooDoo3dfx  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:42:00 PM

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Kylaer_:
Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."

Where exactly in that article did you see the Sheriff make plain his "disgust" with such an idea???



I don't think he can make it plain.

Its written between the lines.
badfish274  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:42:38 PM

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Kylaer_:
Dumbass? He's right. Whites aren't a protected class. He's making a statement that makes that plain (along with his disgust at it) without coming straight out and saying "only whites can be charged with hate crimes."

Where exactly in that article did you see the Sheriff make plain his "disgust" with such an idea???



Exactly what I was thinking. I don't know where you guys get this dumb shit. He says we're not protected by a law that makes it illegal to attack someone based on their race.

Not based on the blackness of their skin, but on their RACE.

It is (or at least should be) a two-way street, and this dumbshit sheriff is being a complete pussy, unwilling to state the obvious.
badfish274  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:43:44 PM

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
I don't think he can make it plain.

Its written between the lines.


If he, or anyone else, can show me where it is written in the law that a white man attacking a black man gets more time than a black man attacking a white man, I'll eat my shoe.

The law is race-neutral, the Sheriff should know that.
Merrell  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:44:39 PM
Macomb County data

Wobblin-Goblin  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:45:32 PM

Originally Posted By Merrell:
Video of attacks released by police

I never say this, but, "Draw down."
fxntime  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:47:03 PM

Originally Posted By PFC-Demon:

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By PFC-Demon:
Seems like a good time to have an automatic weapon.


Hmm, to not only be charged with the felony for possession,
but to also victimize all the fine upstanding gentlemen in cold blood?

That'd be the fastest execution in history, and you wouldn't even get a single protest.


I didn't realize automatic weapons were prohibited in Michigan. They're legal here.


Legal here also.
Stonerriflefan44  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 8:56:20 PM

Originally Posted By Merrell:
Video of attacks released by police


well no wonder the gas station employee wouldnt help him. She was black.


eta We need to send 60 to 80 ARFCOMers to patrol that nieghborhood.
jnojr  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:01:50 PM

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:




It is important to note that though Hackel suggested that state and federal law does not protect white folk like it does for “protected classes,” he still has vowed to hunt down and bring to justice the thugs who targeted innocent whites who did not provoke the crimes meted out to them. In interviews with the media, Hackel has described the attacks as “savage,” and has said that “Not even animals act like this.”


GASP!

Racism!

He's comparing blacks to "savages" and "animals"!

We must immediately launch a Federal hate crimes investigation into this Sheriff! Racism in American must be stamped out! The poor innocent black victims of his racism must be granted immunity for their outcry against racism which happened to take the form of savage beatings of whites, since they're oppressed and powerless to express their sense of injustice any other way!

Oh, and reparations... we must not forget the reparations we owe this fine, upstanding urban youths for the centuries of racism they have experienced.
LtDirector  [Member]
6/14/2008 9:04:12 PM

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By badfish274:
www.macomb-mi.gov/Photos%20of%20Officials/MarkAHackel.jpg

I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.



Holy shit! I wouldn't wear that uniform to a Hallowe'en party. No wonder he's a clown.


If you are sick of this shit, raise your hand.


I like the uniform, I think it looks old fashioned. I hate the guy in it, though
douglasmorris99  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:09:05 PM
you what dont seem to understand, let my try to simplify it.
He is not a Dumbass, He is a politician attempting to cover his ass..may actually be a good cop,,he is in a hard place for certain..
so..here goes

2 straight men, beat up a gay man,,its a hate crime..
2 gay men, beat up a straight man,,its assault.

2 whites beat down a black its a hate crime
2 blacks beat down a white,,its only assault.

30 poor black, hispanic, gay, rosecrusions beat down the Pope..they are only misunderstood youth taking out thier frustrations over thier lot in life..
sort of like the Burning Season IN Paris


Lastly, WHITE is becoming a Crime in America,,2 generations..done

Yucca  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:14:16 PM
You can only be a racist in this country if you are white

Been that way for a quite a few years
Yucca  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:15:34 PM
And yet we are still the majority and let it happen
mcantu  [Member]
6/14/2008 9:18:37 PM
well in NY, hate crime laws apply to any race...
douglasmorris99  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:22:59 PM

Originally Posted By mcantu:
well in NY, hate crime laws apply to any race...



test that please, let us know how it works out..
Swindle1984  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:28:37 PM
"The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, and Balanchine ballets don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history."
~ Susan Sontag, U.S. essayist.

"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health."
~ Charles Barron, Democratic New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002

"Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them."
~ Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights


"There's no great, white bigot; there's just about 200 million little white bigots out there."
~ Julienne Malveaux, USA Today columnist

"The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won't pay for much family planning."
~ Jocelyn Elders, US Surgeon General under Bill Clinton.

"(I) will not let the white boys win in this election."
~ Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager on the 2000 election

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We saw the same shit with the Wichita Massacre and that couple that was repeatedly raped, mutilated, and murdered. Because the attackers were black and the victims were white, it's not newsworthy. But a supposed rape that NEVER HAPPENED not only gets massive, 24/7 news coverage and thousands of outraged people making waves over it, but when it becomes obvious that no crime every occurred, none of them apologize for the total character assassination they committed.

The problem is becoming more and more of an issue, and when people hear about a horrific crime and express a lack of surprise that the perpetrator was black, they get called racist.

Guys, there's a 500 pound gorilla in the room, and I'm going to point it out to you even if you refuse to acknowledge it.

Black people are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, including most of the crimes committed against blacks and including a large percentage of crimes committed for racial reasons.

The cause is the key here, and before any idiot starts hollering and clammering that I'm racist to prove how diverse and PC he is, I'm going to point it out too.

Black people do not commit crimes because they are black. Heck, it's mainly a small percentage of the blacks committing all that crime, not every black at once. The reason why black people commit this disproportionate amount of crime is because that's how they think they're supposed to behave. It's a symptom of the welfare state we've created. You put anyone- black, white, hispanic, indian, asian, whatever- into a system that exists to provide someone with cradle-to-grave money, free housing, free food, etc., a system that tells the people in it that they are oppressed, discriminated against, or just can't survive without Big Brother's free cheese, a system that tells people all of the free things they get at the expense of others is OWED to them, you're going to get the same result: uneducated ghetto trash who has no respect for others, no work ethic, no sense of responsibility, seething resentment and anger over perceived injustices (real and imaginary), and an over-developed sense of entitlement. I know, I've seen it play out over and over. My aunt is the result of just such a system. Both my adopted sisters were rescued from that system (and then the older one ran right back to it and is currently disappearing for days, even weeks, at a time, partying, can't keep a job, and literally has no idea who is babysitting her kid 90% of the time.).

It poisons people. And when you have generation after generation of slackers with no education and hear from the day they're born to the day that they die that they are downtrodden and entitled to whatever they want without having to earn it, that they are entitled to "respect" (which nearly always devolves into confusing fear for respect), and that anyone who has something nice that they worked to earn doesn't deserve it, you get criminals. Why go to school and work a nine-to-five job when you can sell dope? Why save your money for a tv when you can steal it? Why find a nice girl, marry her, and raise kids when you can just screw any whore attracted to your "bling" and then abandon her when she's no longer convenient? Why pay for a nice house when you can get a shitty apartment for free? Why maintain your apartment and keep it clean when someone else takes care of it? Why save money for retirement instead of drugs, jewelry, or music when your lifestyle is probably going to get you killed before you're thirty anyway?

The reason it affects black people so much is, truthfully enough, because of racism. Liberals only see groups, not individuals, and that includes race. Regardless of your individual merits and achievements, if you're black, that's the only thing a liberal sees. And liberals are the biggest fucking hypocrites that ever lived. In every aspect of their lives. In the case of racism, it's a major hypocricy. They prefer blacks (and hispanics) remain in their ghettoes rather than their nice, up-scale gated communities. It works very conveniently for Democrat politicians that blacks will continue voting them into power in exchange for continued free handouts (at someone else's expense, of course.). Even being black doesn't prevent people from exploiting racism against (and by) blacks. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are proof of that.

So when people express their lack of surprise that some criminal scumbag acting like a savage animal was black, don't immediately accuse them of racism. They're just sick and tired of hearing the same shit over and over again. There is a serious problem rotting the very core of our nation; it hurts everyone, but it is especially destroying blacks because their population is the most affected by it. Cure the disease (welfare, entitlement mentality, free handouts, affirmitive action, etc.), and the rot will slowly heal. When everyone is on equal footing (and not given preference because they're "disadvantaged", i.e., not white) and has to work hard and get an education, to earn everything they own, then a lot of the problem leading to ghetto crime goes away.

And the reason why black-on-black crime is so prevelent is simply because they live close together in the ghettoes and the criminals among them just prey on the closest targets of opportunity.
pighelmet  [Member]
6/14/2008 9:30:06 PM
Isn't Hackle's dad in jail for something stupid?
Swindle1984  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:30:36 PM

Originally Posted By badfish274:


I move that ARFCOM now use this as the 'DUMBASS...' picture.




Hmmm...
thumper10mm  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:31:39 PM
This surprises you in todays America?
White people are still the largest populous in the U.S. and always the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to anything run by the state or fed government.
You can't get promoted in a fed or state job anymore if you are white, it's no longer most qualified, it's minority first no matter what.
Swindle1984  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:32:13 PM

Originally Posted By kill-9:
One sign of our culture returning to a sane philosophy will be when such things as "hate crimes" are abolished.


+1

I don't give a shit WHY some asshole assaults, rapes, murders, or otherwise harms a person, it's the fact he assaulted, raped, murdered, or otherwise harmed someone that I have a problem with.

Hate crimes (especially as defined by the government) are just a slippery slope to thought crime.
Taxman  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:32:44 PM
I always thought the hate crime laws made the white majority a 2nd class citizen.

If you (white) attack someone (black) becuase of thier race you can face a harsher sentance, but is you attack someone your own race or a "minority" attacks you the penalties can be less.

Same with getting in schools and jobs
douglasmorris99  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:36:16 PM
IBTL...but Dammint...whats being said holds way more than a Modicum of truth
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
6/14/2008 9:38:49 PM

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Cure the disease (welfare, entitlement mentality, free handouts, affirmitive action, etc.), and the rot will slowly heal. When everyone is on equal footing (and not given preference because they're "disadvantaged", i.e., not white) and has to work hard and get an education, to earn everything they own, then a lot of the problem leading to ghetto crime goes away.


But then there would be nobody to vote Democrat.







Excellent post.
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