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 Brady Campaign and gun confiscation
-Wolverine-  [Member]
7/6/2009 8:51:31 PM
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?
Skibane  [Team Member]
7/6/2009 10:14:43 PM
From the Wikipedia entry for The Brady Campaign:

The Brady Campaign emerged from Handgun Control, Inc., originally the National Council to Control Handguns (NCCH), and the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (CPHV). NCCH was founded in 1974 by Dr. Mark Borinsky, a victim of gun violence, and became HCI in 1980.


"I'm convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We're going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest. Of course, it's true that politicians will then go home and say, 'This is a great law. The problem is solved.' And it's also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time. So then we'll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal." — Nelson T. "Pete" Shields III, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., "A Reporter At Large: Handguns," The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

"We must get rid of all the guns." — HCI Spokesperson Sarah Brady, on the Phil Donahue Show, September 1994

"...I don't believe gun owners have rights." — Sarah Brady, Hearst Newspapers Special Report, "Handguns in America" October 1997

"The NRA is bound and determined not to allow the Brady Bill to be enacted. And they're a fearsome opponent. They see this as `threshold' legislation. Because they realize if we get the Brady Bill to President Clinton and he signs it into law, then the door will be wide open for further gun control legislation. Of course, we hope that's true because, as you know, our campaign to enact a National Gun Policy to combat gun violence doesn't end with the Brady Bill - it just begins." — Sarah Brady, HCI newsletter, Spring 1993
PUBBOY  [Team Member]
7/6/2009 10:18:57 PM
Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?


LOL!

WUT?

n0zzle  [Member]
7/6/2009 10:23:00 PM
The Brady Bunch are useful idiots for those with evil intent. They support criminals, that's all you need to remember about them.
h3smith  [Member]
7/6/2009 10:32:00 PM
Sarah Brady's cancer needs to hurry up.
StraightShooter7  [Team Member]
7/6/2009 10:34:21 PM
Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?


Sleepy1988  [Member]
7/6/2009 11:22:29 PM
All members of the Brady campaign should be deported to North Korea via parachute.
-Wolverine-  [Member]
7/7/2009 8:39:35 PM
I am quite serious. I can't find anything with "legitimate" citiations that clearly deomonstrates the Brady's desire ot remove all gun from the US.

I need a citation for a gun control debate.
flyfishnepa  [Member]
7/7/2009 8:47:36 PM


i think they do they're work by insisting on small regulations, like closing the "gun show loophole" and registration,

then once they would get those insist on other small regulations and keep going like that until guns rights are no more.

they're sneaky fucks and need to go on a tour of Iran for a month or two.




ArmyInfantryVet  [Team Member]
7/7/2009 8:50:40 PM

Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?

Are you a Brady Campaign troll? Fuck them. if someone in power proposed an idea to ban guns, they would throw their weight behind it in a heartbeat.

The "We dont want to ban guns" is complete non-sense. They only say it, because of how many millions of gun owners we have here, they would get absolutely NO funding or support.
happycynic  [Team Member]
7/7/2009 8:53:24 PM
Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?


Just look at what they defend. They have yet to find a gun law too harsh. They cite countries with total or near-total gun bans as examples for the rest of us. I watched the debate between the NRA and IANSA on gun control and the IANSA bitch would allow - at most - single shot weapons for hunting.
Joe_Pennsy  [Team Member]
7/7/2009 8:54:50 PM
Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?


All you're really going to find are quotes like Skibane posted.

They're not going to come out and publicly post "we want to take all of your guns", and they don't even get into the ramifications of crap they do publicly admit IE- "safe storage" = grandpa bill getting tossed in prison because his methhead grandson broke in and stole his 870.

Gunnerpalace  [Team Member]
7/7/2009 8:57:45 PM
Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am quite serious. I can't find anything with "legitimate" citiations that clearly deomonstrates the Brady's desire ot remove all gun from the US.

I need a citation for a gun control debate.


There is a reason you cant find it, they don't want you too, even though there are a lot of sheeple out there if they were to come out and say "we want door-to-door confiscations" their public support would drop and they would (rightfully) be treated like scum.

That is why they do their work incrementally.
Kihn  [Team Member]
7/7/2009 9:01:50 PM
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?

Are you a Brady Campaign troll? Fuck them. if someone in power proposed an idea to ban guns, they would throw their weight behind it in a heartbeat.

The "We dont want to ban guns" is complete non-sense. They only say it, because of how many millions of gun owners we have here, they would get absolutely NO funding or support.


Brady Campaign_assault weapons

Pegdraggin  [Member]
7/7/2009 9:02:25 PM
You're not going to find any citation that clearly shows they support gun confiscation, because that would be political suicide.
So if it's absolute proof you're looking for, there isn't any.

However, a cursory examination of their agenda and previous record of legislation shows that they're obviously no friend to gun owners. Their interest isn't in 'common sense gun reform'... it's in going as far as they can to remove guns from the hands of Americans.
delacrue  [Member]
7/7/2009 9:12:23 PM
Even the Brady bunch aren't that stupid. IIRC, even fascistly anti-gun countries like Australia that banned all semi-autos never actually went door-to-door for them, but rather just offered a buyback program for anyone who'd turn it in. I hear many people ignored it, and a lot of "illegal" guns are still hidden there to this day.
Gunnerpalace  [Team Member]
7/7/2009 9:12:56 PM
Dude,Dude,Dude,Dude..........Quote

Former Presidents Ford, Carter, and Reagan wrote Congress in support of the
1994 ban


That true?
delacrue  [Member]
7/7/2009 9:15:13 PM
Of course it is, Reagan endorsed the Brady bill and has never been pro-gun. Not all republicans like guns, some hate them just as much as the liberals.
Lancair  [Member]
7/7/2009 9:17:27 PM
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Even the Brady bunch aren't that stupid. IIRC, even fascistly anti-gun countries like Australia that banned all semi-autos never actually went door-to-door for them, but rather just offered a buyback program for anyone who'd turn it in. I hear many people ignored it, and a lot of "illegal" guns are still hidden there to this day.


TacticsFirst  [Team Member]
7/7/2009 9:49:11 PM

Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By -Wolverine-:
I am having trouble finding anything that clearly shows that the Brady Campaign supports gun confiscation, does anyone have any [legitimate[/i] links?

Are you a Brady Campaign troll? Fuck them. if someone in power proposed an idea to ban guns, they would throw their weight behind it in a heartbeat.

The "We dont want to ban guns" is complete non-sense. They only say it, because of how many millions of gun owners we have here, they would get absolutely NO funding or support.


Brady Campaign_assault weapons


Wow was just reading this and it is super misleading.

A threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor
or silencer. A silencer is useful to assassins but clearly has no
purpose for sportsmen. Silencers are also illegal.
They make it sound like because the rifle has the ability to accommodate a silencer, you will use that legal "silencer" illegally while hunting. You will never use your legal suppressor legally while target shooting.


A grenade launcher or flare launcher, neither of which could have
any sporting or self-defense purpose.

Last time I checked i take a flare gun with me on all my sporting trips. Come to think of it, mounting it on my weapon system would just facilitate the use of it in case of an emergency.



This PDF is a bunch off bull shit and I'm sorry I hijacked you thread but im pissed again.
Zan  [Member]
7/7/2009 9:59:09 PM
Fascism that's been customized to appeal to suburban moms.
Kihn  [Team Member]
7/8/2009 1:37:12 AM
Originally Posted By delacrue:
Of course it is, Reagan endorsed the Brady bill and has never been pro-gun. Not all republicans like guns, some hate them just as much as the liberals.


That' not true in the true sene of the events that took place. Reagan accepted an AR-15 as a gift from NRA for all of his pro-gun support (the 86 bill minus the NFA stuff was a miraculous godsend for the protection of gunownres). additionally he cut funding i beleive for the ATF during his tenure. When the endorsement by Reagan came in 1994 he was in advanced stage of Alzheimers. During the '86 ban the BRD disease had nowhere the following it does today nd owners were a very small segment of the gunowning community (and Fuddism was in full force then too). Both parties thought it was a non-issue so that's why there was no intial resistance to it- after all these were machine guns and who in their right mind would want to own one of those other than killers, terrorists, bank robbers, etc... . The NFA rolls were well under 150,000 for registered items but swelled to more than 240,000 by the time enactment rolled around.

-Wolverine-  [Member]
7/20/2009 12:40:23 AM
No, I am not a Brady troll. I was looking for actual proof of their ultimate goal.

We all basically know what they want, I was sipmply looking for something to confirm it.
4v50  [Team Member]
7/20/2009 12:54:00 AM
Originally Posted By Zan:
Fascism that's been customized to appeal to suburban soccer moms.


Fixed it.