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 Post Ban Stock Options?? VLTOR-Ace Stock-Sully Stock-Need Pro's and Con's
Powershota530  [Member]
12/1/2010 1:25:49 PM
I have a KISS Rifle with a 16 Inch Bushmaster A-1 Upper that I want to replace the buttstock. Currently have an RRA Entry Stock that is too short and I don't like the options of giving the stock more length. Would appreciate Pro's and Con's on the below stocks. All my other AR's have A-1 Buttstocks that I have been very happy with, but I want something different for this rifle. I have considered pinning a collapsible style stock but rejected the idea because I feel a fixed stock provides a better shooting platform. Current buttstocks I'm considering include:

ACE ARFX Entry Stock- http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_77&products_id=190 I like the fact that I can buy two diferent recail pads 1/2' and 1" and vary the length of the stock. Cheapest alternative

Sully Stock- http://www.thedefensiveedge.com/category_s/51.htm Sully Stock Kit contains-Stock, Butt Plate, Buffer Tube, Buffer and Spring, and Screws, which reduces the cost of the purchase substantially. Also I can purchase a 1" extended buttplate. How does this stock work for regular shooting where body armor is not being worn and action shooting is not being conducted???

VLTOR ARM Rifle Stocks- I am interested in the A1-1 Configuration and am not sure which model(Clubfoot or Standard) would be best suited for all around shooting??

Are there other buttstock alternatives I'm missing???

Thanks for any feedback you can provide.

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cleat  [Member]
12/1/2010 3:10:25 PM
I tried the Vltor Modstock and liked it a lot. The cheek weld was the best part. It was a little heavier than I like. I am now using a Magpul MOE and really like it. You should try to hold each type and buy the one YOU like the best. It may save you some $.
evileyeswatchin  [Member]
12/1/2010 3:15:27 PM
The Sully is the perfect length IMO, however it weighs a ton.
I run an ACE entry w/a 1" KAC spacer and 1/2" pad works for me.(the 1" buttpad was worthless)
chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/1/2010 3:45:43 PM
sully for 14.5 builds, sully+1" for 16+

rra is a little too short for anything other than soft+hard body armor use.
I use them with +1" dpms extenders, but still a bit light.

Ace entry with 1" buttpad, also a bit too light for me, and I really can't get into the foam cheekrest.

for non-combat rifles, the vltor A1 clubfoot with a cheek eeze cheekpad is comfy.


ace entry +1" buttpad +1" dpms extender


rra entry+ 1"dpms extender


rra entry


sully



vltor a1


ace entry +1" buttpad






strat81  [Team Member]
12/1/2010 4:42:22 PM
What about a Magpul PRS?
andr3w  [Team Member]
12/1/2010 4:52:20 PM

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
sully for 14.5 builds, sully+1" for 16+

rra is a little too short for anything other than soft+hard body armor use.
I use them with +1" dpms extenders, but still a bit light.

Ace entry with 1" buttpad, also a bit too light for me, and I really can't get into the foam cheekrest.

for non-combat rifles, the vltor A1 clubfoot with a cheek eeze cheekpad is comfy.


ace entry +1" buttpad +1" dpms extender
http://i41.tinypic.com/2v2bgw9.jpg

rra entry+ 1"dpms extender
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2mdovar.jpg

rra entry
http://ee.ar15.com/uploadImages/20090803/50778/Uploaded_633849055060795000_File.jpg

sully
http://i39.tinypic.com/10fqlxd.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/t8x8ww.jpg

vltor a1
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs164.snc4/37553_413381564430_689724430_4248304_4002867_n.jpg

ace entry +1" buttpad
http://i32.tinypic.com/ief77p.jpg






I run an rra with a +1 like the sig above and it works pretty well.
RabidMonkeyPox  [Member]
12/1/2010 6:51:52 PM
Look at the rock river operator a2 stock. Looks and feels like a a2 version of the sopmod.
colklink  [Member]
12/1/2010 6:59:24 PM
During the ban I had an ace stock that was very solid. I can recommend that one. Why not an A1 or A2 stock though for the storage, since you cant go with a collapsable stock anyway?
JAD  [Member]
12/1/2010 7:14:02 PM
I use an A1 stock, actually a pre-A1 m16 stock sans storage...I don't really use it anyways. The A2 is just about as good, accept it doesn't handle as well (for me) for aggressive type shooting. As much as I hate to say it, I run the 20" A4 clone better than my preban 16" M4 clone...go figure
MSPRet  [Member]
12/1/2010 7:31:58 PM
"During the ban I had an ace stock that was very solid. I can recommend that one. Why not an A1 or A2 stock though for the storage, since you cant go with a collapsable stock anyway?"

"I use an A1 stock, actually a pre-A1 m16 stock sans storage...I don't really use it anyways. The A2 is just about as good, accept it doesn't handle as well (for me) for aggressive type shooting. As much as I hate to say it, I run the 20" A4 clone better than my preban 16" M4 clone...go figure"

I agree, I use RRA entry stocks with several ways of making them just a bit longer on a couple of AR's but I also agree that for what you want either an A1 or A2 stock would be very nice and would work great for you....<><....:)
par3  [Member]
12/1/2010 7:35:31 PM
Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
Look at the rock river operator a2 stock. Looks and feels like a a2 version of the sopmod.


Anybody here have hands on experience with this stock. It looks to be a good alternative for post ban builds.
flash556  [Member]
12/1/2010 9:03:50 PM
I have the RRA operator A2 stock on My NY compliant build, works great, well made, came with the buffer tube, spring and rifle buffer, when I bought mine from Rock River Arms it took 6 or 8 weeks to get it, guess they had to make 'em not sure if there is a wait now, now whenever I buy parts I always call to order instead of just doing it online.....
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=392
Powershota530  [Member]
12/1/2010 10:12:22 PM
Originally Posted By flash556:
I have the RRA operator A2 stock on My NY compliant build, works great, well made, came with the buffer tube, spring and rifle buffer, when I bought mine from Rock River Arms it took 6 or 8 weeks to get it, guess they had to make 'em not sure if there is a wait now, now whenever I buy parts I always call to order instead of just doing it online.....
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=392


Thanks guys but I am Not interested in an A2 Length Stock. Quite frankly I would buy the VLTOR ARM A1 Stock I listed above for $119.00 rather than pay RRA $130 for a cheap copy of VLTOR's product. To clarify I am looking for an entry length fixed buttstock that would allow me to extend the LOP approximately 1 inch or an A1 sized rifle stock. I really would like more feedback on the Sully and VLTOR offerings.
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