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Evil_Ed  [Team Member]
5/13/2006 4:41:24 PM

20 minutes with Google didn't get me a definitive answer...maybe someone here knows


What's the knife laws here, vis a vie automatic/switchblades, assisted-opening (like Kershaw Ken Onions), butterfly knives, yadda yadda yadda? What's legal to own and stick in your pocket, and what's just a felony stop waiting to happen?

How about for those who can CCW legally, vs those who don't have a carry permit? Are the laws different in that case?



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rn22723  [Team Member]
5/13/2006 5:14:05 PM
Minnesota Statutes 2005, 609.66
Copyright 2005 by the Office of Revisor of Statutes, State of Minnesota.


609.66 Dangerous weapons.
Subdivision 1. Misdemeanor and gross misdemeanor
crimes. (a) Whoever does any of the following is guilty of a
crime and may be sentenced as provided in paragraph (b):

(1) recklessly handles or uses a gun or other dangerous
weapon or explosive so as to endanger the safety of another; or

(2) intentionally points a gun of any kind, capable of
injuring or killing a human being and whether loaded or
unloaded, at or toward another; or

(3) manufactures or sells for any unlawful purpose any
weapon known as a slungshot or sand club; or

(4) manufactures, transfers, or possesses metal knuckles or
a switch blade knife opening automatically; or


(5) possesses any other dangerous article or substance for
the purpose of being used unlawfully as a weapon against
another; or

(6) outside of a municipality and without the parent's or
guardian's consent, furnishes a child under 14 years of age, or
as a parent or guardian permits the child to handle or use,
outside of the parent's or guardian's presence, a firearm or
airgun of any kind, or any ammunition or explosive.

Possession of written evidence of prior consent signed by
the minor's parent or guardian is a complete defense to a charge
under clause (6).

(b) A person convicted under paragraph (a) may be sentenced
as follows:

(1) if the act was committed in a public housing zone, as
defined in section 152.01, subdivision 19, a school zone, as
defined in section 152.01, subdivision 14a, or a park zone, as
defined in section 152.01, subdivision 12a, to imprisonment for
not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than
$3,000, or both; or

(2) otherwise, including where the act was committed on
residential premises within a zone described in clause (1) if
the offender was at the time an owner, tenant, or invitee for a
lawful purpose with respect to those residential premises, to
imprisonment for not more than 90 days or to payment of a fine
of not more than $1,000, or both.

Subd. 1a. Felony crimes; silencers prohibited; reckless
discharge. (a) Except as otherwise provided in subdivision
1h, whoever does any of the following is guilty of a felony and
may be sentenced as provided in paragraph (b):

(1) sells or has in possession any device designed to
silence or muffle the discharge of a firearm;

(2) intentionally discharges a firearm under circumstances
that endanger the safety of another; or

(3) recklessly discharges a firearm within a municipality.

(b) A person convicted under paragraph (a) may be sentenced
as follows:

(1) if the act was a violation of paragraph (a), clause
(2), or if the act was a violation of paragraph (a), clause (1)
or (3), and was committed in a public housing zone, as defined
in section 152.01, subdivision 19, a school zone, as defined in
section 152.01, subdivision 14a, or a park zone, as defined in
section 152.01, subdivision 12a, to imprisonment for not more
than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than
$10,000, or both; or

(2) otherwise, to imprisonment for not more than two years
or to payment of a fine of not more than $5,000, or both.
dpmmn  [Team Member]
5/13/2006 6:09:15 PM
Translation for those who are stumped
Evil_Ed  [Team Member]
5/13/2006 6:34:34 PM

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Translation for those who are stumped



Yeah

Like in NY, things that would be illegal to carry (switchblades, etc) enter a grey area when you have a CCW. That is, technically, they're ok to carry.

Hunters are also allowed to carry switchblades in NY as I recall, because more often than not they need to work one-handed, or something...

None of that applies here? Even with a permit?

Meat  [Member]
5/13/2006 6:58:03 PM
Minnesota operates on mass confusion, who knows whats legal or not anymore. I guess, what they dont know cant hurt them, right?

advntrjnky  [Member]
5/14/2006 7:53:07 AM
I think MN weapons laws are written fairly well. you just have to read them at face value, and read the whole section pertaing to it, and all the referenced sections. even though i don't agree with some of the regulations they seem to be written by educated/ informed people. the only convoluted firearms law i remember reading in the mn statutes is the sale of handguns to an individual from another individual. it states that you can only sell handguns to a person holding a purchase permit, a CCW, or a transfer form. however, their is no crime attached to it unless the person you sold it to commits a crime within a year of you selling it to them.

ETA: the ATF website has the info under its state firearms laws publication. it may be available on the MN state website also, but i have the ATF book because of my C&R license
NBot  [Member]
5/14/2006 12:27:49 PM
Minnesota State Law, makes it illegal to carry / be in posession of "assisted" opening knives.

Microtech's Automatics and the so-forth. So at the gun shows if you buy one, and get caught with it. It's a misdermeanor. aka.. good luck buying a gun in the future.

Remember State Statute also states that it is illegal to be in possesion of a firearm that has the ability to accept a suppressor. However we sell guns all over the place that have threaded barrels. So, if you don't want the prosecutor to make an example out of you, don't play along he gray line

I.E. They might not bust you for it, but if you do something stupid, they might also use it against you.

In all the statutes. I havn't seen anything pertaining to maximum length of the blade, in other states i've seen it in the statute.

It's all very gray, because even the AXIS lock benchmades can be opened with one had with a flick of the wrist.
rash750  [Member]
5/14/2006 4:18:13 PM
The answer I got from the sheriffs dept was, any type of automatic (push a button) knifes are illegial to carry except law enforcement even with a CCW. Assisted opening, butterfly, fixed blades are allowed.

Personally I'd call the sheriffs dept of the county you live in and get the name of the person who gives you the info. At least you can show that you made every attempt to be legal.
BuddyLeeManofAction  [Member]
5/14/2006 8:26:48 PM

Originally Posted By rash750:
The answer I got from the sheriffs dept was, any type of automatic (push a button) knifes are illegial to carry except law enforcement even with a CCW. Assisted opening, butterfly, fixed blades are allowed.

Personally I'd call the sheriffs dept of the county you live in and get the name of the person who gives you the info. At least you can show that you made every attempt to be legal.



Even for LEO's automatics are illegal - there is no exception under state law, only federal. Whats odd is that one can walk into Streichers or any other cop shop and with a copy of PD ID buy an automatic knife. I wish they'd update/revise all these laws. Nothing makes an automatic more dangerous. For now I guess I'll stick to my AXIS knives!

Anyone know what a slungshot is?
UZI4you  [Member]
5/15/2006 4:27:02 PM
The automatic knife laws are SO stupid. You can open any folding knife with a thumb stud as fast or faster than a switchblade.

And every MN gun show I go to there are hundreds of switchblades of all types and makes for sale.

Also, knife makers like CUDA and Kershaw that have assited "flippers" and open as fast as a Protech or Benchmade auto. Yet the assisted flippers knives are legal, the Benchmade is not


These laws should be reversed.



AlreadyThere  [Team Member]
5/15/2006 6:27:47 PM

Originally Posted By UZI4you:
The automatic knife laws are SO stupid. You can open any folding knife with a thumb stud as fast or faster than a switchblade.

And every MN gun show I go to there are hundreds of switchblades of all types and makes for sale.

Also, knife makers like CUDA and Kershaw that have assited "flippers" and open as fast as a Protech or Benchmade auto. Yet the assisted flippers knives are legal, the Benchmade is not


These laws should be reversed.






It is tough to get the TV images out of the heads of a lot of the legislators here in MN so these kinds of things are very difficult to change. It is also amazing how ignorant of the laws they are. When we passed the carry law again last time one of the DFL’ers stood up and said it sure is good that permit holders cannot carry at the capitol because someone in the crowd who is mad about this could shoot me. I was flanked by 5 people who were carrying and Capitol Security was standing right next to us. Capitol Security gets our pictures and they know who we are. The guard looked over at us stifled a laugh and walked away. That is the level of ignorance we are working with.
twonami  [Team Member]
5/17/2006 2:49:04 AM
we sure have some stupid laws
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